:'(

Totally agree, you shouldn't have a real opinion until you experience both sides of the story.

But you cant just accept someone else's opinion? Or do you go against them just because its different than your own?

then why are you arguing with us and trying to say that manual cars suck and new ferrari's have passion?

We go against them because you blindly are saying these things. We have experience in these matters, and you go about making assumptions which simply cannot be made without the right knowledge in them.

because thats what i believe. thats my opinion

Your opinion is biased due to the fact you have never experienced the other option, it is based on pure assumption.

And on other peoples opinion. And some of those people have VERY highly respected opinions

But most of your opinions have nothing backing them up. If you want to say you like or do not like the styling of a particular car that is one thing, but you start to lose your credibility when you make assumptions about things you don't really know anything about.

ill take that criticism, thank you. but i still maintain that the 458 is the best ferrari ever made. I think it looks absolutely stellar. and judging from what ive HEARD it absolutely excels in performance

of course it's fast, it's a Ferrari so it had better be.

Well I did ride in a 458 on a track once, and it's got power behind it, and it takes turns like a dream.

So it's got passion, perhaps not as much passion as Icons like the F40, the Daytona, the Enzo, and of course the 250 GTO. But certainly it has much more passion then the California, the FF, the F12, and a few others.

So as far as post-2000 Ferraris go the 458 is very high on the list of passion and looks. But some older ferraris just have more of that history to them that truly makes them special.

Saw two 458 Italias at a dealer today. I now have been reminded of its true beauty. I love it!

YES!!

458 Italia is one of the best looking Ferrari's ever made. Its in my top 3 favorite Ferrari's,So... YAY